HOWEDY WakeBdr,
I'm posting to you directly in response to diddler's reply to your
post advising you to seek a HOWEsHOWELD wiring technician.
diddler is a PROFESSIONAL DOG TRAINER... she knows
EVERY THING abHOWET dog behavior problems from first
hand EXXXPERIENCE goin through them with her own hyper-
active HOWETA CON-TROLL DEAD an DEATHLY ILL dogs.
diddler and the other posters here are MENTALLY ILL and
desperately need their rest. If you reply to them you'll be
inciting them to go MANIC and possibly require further
HOWEspitalization.
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrThis started Thursday evening. My 3.5 year old Boykin Spaniel
will not sit still or sleep. She keeps pacing around like she's deathly
afraid of something.
It's absolutely killing me to see her like this.
Anyone got any ideas of what might cause something like this?
You might get your house wiring checked?
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
HOWEDY diddler you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward active accute chronic
life long incurable malignant mental case and backyard
puppy miller and professional dog training FRAUD an
SCAM ARTIST,
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrYes. But in this situation, "leave it" would have been even better.
You mean INSTEAD of simply TRAININ the dog not to TAKE STUFF?
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrI wouldn't have let Harriet pick up something like that in the first
place, much less allowed her to keep it. But, then, I've seen a dog
I cared about die from perforated intestines,
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
Seems there's a lotta THAT goin arHOWEND here <{}: ~ ) >
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrand I don't intend to ever to it again, if there's
anything I can do to keep it from happening.
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
THAT AIN'T LIKELY TO HAPPEN.
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrI also wouldn't keep a dog in my home whose mouth I
couldn't take things out of. Even disgusting, tasty things
like bones.
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
Post by diddyHaving had Tuck almost die of perforated stomach
and intestines from a 2 1/2" wing tip,
Naaaah? Oh, you mean JUST LIKE HOWE all them other
DEATHLY ILL dogs of yours swallHOWED STUFF an
nearly DIED an needed abdominal surgery, diddler?
Post by diddyI plan on never risking going there again.
That so? Oh, you mean like HOWE you JUST DONE with
Cappy eatin the HORSE SHIT an gettin an intestinal blockage?
Post by diddyOf course, that was not my choice of action at the time either.
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
YOU'RE A FRAUD <{}: ~ ( >
And NHOWE, on to the GOOD STUFF!
And THEN, through the MAGICK of INSANITY, SELF
AGGRANDIZEMENT, LIES and diddler's own POSTED
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Archives, diddler the shit stain smeared on the walls with
her finger dipped in bloody poop:
"diddy" <none> wrote in message news:***@216.196.97.142...
A dog trainer must succeed. By nature, "Command" mentality
makes dog trainers a curmudgeonly lot. The deeper a dog
behavior digs in, the more willing a good trainer is to do
what it takes to uproot the undesired behavior.
This willingness to tackle what results in a battle of wills
is well pronounced in dog trainers. And if you think that's
something, try horse trainer lists, where the ante is upped X
1000 pounds and poor results can KILL you!
However, "nice little horsey " types are rarely successful
in horse training and rather self extinguishing bringing
about more moderation in established techniques.
BWEEEAAAAHAHAAA~!
"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies
are going to come back and bite you. I don't understand
how, you as a trainer, don't comprehend this.
Having a 100% reliable dog does not
EVER allow for mitigated circumstances.
A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.
You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.
I think that should be expected of any breed, and
those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
atre missing the boat"
BWEEEAAAHAHAAAA~!~!~!
LIKE THIS:
I think that should be expected of any breed, and
those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
atre missing the boat"
"Cappy the beagle killed one of my ducklings today.
Tuck grabbed a leg, and swallowed a leg and thigh
before I could get him.
a month ago, he almost died from swallowing a
chicken wing. Now I'm sweating all over again.
I think he's never going to be allowed out ever
again without a muzzle! (he seems alright thus far.
Re: Tuck's SAR experience
"diddy" <***@nospam.diddy.net> wrote in message news:***@216.196.97.142...
I just came in from putting chickens to bed, and Tuck
had my computer keyboard on the floor, and there are
now two keys missing.
Ornery git
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Re: Just scheduled blood test--Zipper too
Post by diddySeems to me, that should be a standard question for
any pet having any problems at this time.
I took Tuck in last Wednesday to the vets because two weeks
before, he had chewed some old treated lumber. Knowing that
treated lumber used to be treated with Arsenic, and he ate a
substantial amount, I took him into the emergency clinic and
they treated him for arsenic poisoning.
A week later, he still had a raw stomach, esophagus and stomach
(revealed by endoscopy). He was treated with buffers, and antibiotics
to prevent infection of the inflamed tissues. Wednesday, still not
right, but improving, I took him back in for a recheck.
The first thing the vet did, was ask what foods I was feeding.
Which I understood why, but felt considering his current history,
was rather a unnecessary question. I felt we pretty much knew
what was going on with him.
Since he was greatly improved, we decided not to do another
endoscopy and just watch him. He's 100% back to normal.
Hope Cali is too.
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"diddy" <***@nospam.diddy.net> wrote in message
News:***@216.196.97.142...
My dogs aren't into beer that much.
But they sure love Horse poop!
"diddy" <***@nospam.diddy.net> wrote in message news:***@216.196.97.142...
I've scorned your counter surfing dog all these years. I just
discovered this morning,I had one also. I was slicing Beef
tongue (remember the tongue table re: tribute to Cate's
mom?) and I left it on the counter,while I went to read email.
I suddenly saw movement in the kitchen and there was
Tuck scarfing down 7 pounds of sliced tongue. Oh my
goodness gracious, where did he put all of that?
ANYWAY... I owe you an apology.
humiliated in Ohio
diddy
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"diddy" <***@diddy.net> wrote in message news:***@216.196.97.142...
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:06:26 -0500, diddy <***@diddy.net> wrote:
my new puppy, Tuck, grabbed a raw chicken wing and
wolfed it down on sunday. He's been in the hospital daily,
admitted sometimes, and home montored others.He's been
supported supported daily by fluids, hoping he would pass
it, but he's destabilizing fast, and has just gone into surgery
to have it removed from his stomach, and his intestines have
intuscepted from being empty for so long, and they need
surgery also.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: diddy <***@whoops.I.said.WHAT?>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:51:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Disaster plans for dog owners
We left Reka outside, Mr beeegs crated, Taya in the
house.. because Reka plays when Taya doesn't want
to, and Danny came with me. I forgot Taya counter
surf'd. I had 3 sticks of summer sausage sitting on the
table that I was going to give away.
When I came home, all three sticks were gone, with
only the paper skins left that I'd wrapped them with.
Taya had eaten over 5 POUNDS of summer sausage!
I just had to laugh, because otherwise, I'd have cried.
diddy
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrAnyone have any suggestions for a golden (1yr old)
who won't stop retrieving my son's toys, especially
stuffed animals.
I have an elkhound that does this all day long.
I simply --take it from her, put it on my desk,
and give her a cookie and tell her "THANK YOU"
She never stops either ;)
IOW, you got THE SAME PROBLEM and NO METHOD, eh diddler?
Post by diddyI have a 12 week old puppy, he's retrieving, tracking
(limited), getting slippers for me, I play scent games
with him (the old shell game, treat under cups game),
He's learning to search for toys, and knows they are
worth far more when redeemed to me,
Yeah:
"As a result, my desk top looks like a disaster area,
Duh? You need a EXXXCUSE?
"and when I can't find my monitor any more, I take a
huge sweep of the arm and knock them all on
the floor."
And do it again...
"Then she goes to work picking them all up again,
insuring that NOTHING ever touches the floor."
Yeah...
"I feel blessed."
INDEEDY!
"I used to have TWO compulsive retrieving elkhounds"
You mean you COULDN'T STOP THEM from STEALIN STUFF.
"working overtime!"
IN FACT, you CAN'T STOP THEM.
That's what the OP wanted to learn HOWE to do, diddler.
REMEMBER?
"Ahhhh for those days again!"
You been takin your anti psychotic medications, diddler?
"I want the original back!"
You got it, diddler.
"A full desk means I'm loved."
No, a full desk means your dogs are hyperactive
and obsessive compulsively bringin you stuff on
accHOWENT of YOU DON'T KNOW HOWE
TO TRAIN THEM NOT TO.
Post by diddythan they are as treasures hidden under a bed.
OR maybe like your vet's office kitty locked in a crate?
Post by diddyWe spend time working on heeling, sits, downs, prolonging
the stay, stand for exam, and walking in the woods off leash,
introducing him to wildlife, so that he doesn't have such
intense curiosity that he forgets to listen.
Oh! You mean like your "TRACKING" dog Danny?
You had to surgically sexually mutilate IT to stop IT
from "gettin distracted" in the field from his
"TRACKIN WORK". REMEMBER diddler?
Post by diddyI take him out in the barnyard aand allow him to chase
chickens, and the rabbits (on a cord) so that I can check
him,
You mean jerk and choke IT, don't you, diddler.
Post by diddyand teach him "LEAVE IT" and am able to re-enforce it.
Ahhh! THAT'S HOWE COME dogs STEAL STUFF when YOU
AIN'T THERE to JERK an CHOKE them <{); ~ ) >
Post by diddyHe can be in full pursuit, and when I yell
"LEAVE IT" he instantly stops chase.
But YOU CAN'T TRAIN IT NOT TO DO THAT in the first place!
Post by diddyThe barnyard has interesting smells and
tastes, "leave it" becomes useful.
You mean, when you CAN'T TRAIN YOUR OWN DOG
NOT TO DO STUFF IT SHOULDN'T DO, ain't THAT
correct, diddler?
Post by diddyHe has a very reliable "Leave it" and recall.
So long as you're ABLE TO HURT HIM when he don't listen.
Post by diddyBecaause he does..
INDEED?
Post by diddyat 12 weeks, he's already reliable off leash.
Yeah, THAT'S NORMAL for a PUPPY. Wait till IT
is eight months old, you'll NEVER be able to
CON-TROLL IT witHOWET your SHOCK COLLAR <{); ~ ) >
Post by diddyHe's met many strange dogs, and knows to stand
steady or come to me, if other dogs rush him.
BWEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
Post by diddyI'm saying this, because at 12 weeks, he's already
grasped these skills. I've turned his desire to play
chase me (which stealing the slippers is a form of)
into bring to me. I've become his personal entertainment
director.
You're a MENTAL CASE diddler.
Post by diddyIf a puppy of 12 weeks can grasp these things,
You mean SHOES and barnyard chickens, diddler?
Post by diddya dog that is already picking up objects, can be
reversed in a short time to bring them to you instead.
That so? You mean by throwin a can of pennies
at IT while "wavin a stinkin dead macrel under
his nose withHOWET LETTIN HIM SEE IT", diddler?
Post by diddyYour dog is obviously hungry for some sort of game
and mental stimulation. TRAIN him, and satiate that
desire, and redirect that intelligence to be beneficial
and entertaining to you both (as well as useful to you).
The original poster was lookin to TRAIN HIS DOG NOT TO
STEAL SHOES, not develop a GAME to enterTRAIN hisself.
Post by diddyHe's asking for mental stimulation. Give it to him, on
YOUR terms. He sounds like a dog that has a lot going
for him, with a lot to offer.
Oh? You mean like tearin your vet's office kitty kat to
shreds through the crate or do you mean like that DEAD
DOG you shot for eatin garbage, diddler?
Here's diddler's SUCCESS trainin her own dog not to
bark whine an cry all night:
diddy (***@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Oh My God
Date: 2002-01-16 13:39:59 PST
Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is
fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and
listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent
the night franticly and desperately demanding to go out.
After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
securely in a horse stall for the night.
She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.
At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
was not going to be tolerated.
This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
(normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
(not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
confinement.)
I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of blood on
the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.
That blood didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..
and corresponding coyote breeding season.
Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.
She had blood (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh.
I had her at the vets office this morning before he
opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched
up with huge air pockets.
Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I
said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard
that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather
because she was chewing it. That would explain EVERYTHING.
The strings are binding and bunching up her intestines,
cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as
it works its way through.
Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to
require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant
afford. I will manage.
Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical
for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have
treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a
clue that she was sick. I feel so badly.
--
diddy
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in thread news:***@207.115.33.102:
Shelly
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrLynn was making predictably stupid moves well beyond the day it
happened. Any sentient being could see what was coming from her
posts. THINK: UHOH, This isn't going to be pretty. And I'm not
clairvoyant!
So she's not allowed to screw up? But you are? What's obvious
to you or to me or to the lamp post is not necessarily obvious
to someone who is in the thick of things. Yes, I think she
screwed up--multiple times--and that in a perfect world, it would
have been avoidable. But she's allowed to make mistakes. If you
don't like me bringing up the Reka incident every damned time you
bitch about someone fucking up, then you might want to consider
how it makes you feel, and by extension, how it makes other people
feel when you do the same thing to them. This *should* be a
learning experience for you.
I wouldn't have done the Reka incident any differently, UNLESS
I knew before hand that she had swallowed tarp strings. Had I
known that , she would have been to the vet long BEFORE.. in
fact, as soon as it was discovered.
You bring it up, because you think it bugs me. It does not bug
me that I'm not clairvoyant. Not a bit. In fact, if you want to
bring it up time and time again (30 times a day if you wish) I
get the chance to explain it..
and the obvious. You are nuts and have to dig to find something
to twist and turn because you just can't find a knife.
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Subject: Re: While I'm Here: Pitt Bull Guarding House
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrThe gun shop is heated/carpeted and even has a chandelier.
Perhaps it's only vile because it has guns in it, right?
Except when she was banished to the barn. But the point
is that you made a mistake--one of biggest ones I've seen
since I started lurking here. You assumed your dog was
misbehaving, and you punished her for it, when the very
first thing you should have done was to consider a medical
cause for her change in behavior.
Everyone makes mistakes, yet you hold other people
to a higher standard than yourself.
That's hypocritical.
I had no reason to believe she had a medical issue.
NONE.
She behaved that way the night before in the presence of
Coyotes. She came back in the house during the day, ate,
drank, played normally. There were no signs of stress.
NONE.
Then when the coyotes came out the following evening, the
whole scenario restarted. It was colder that night, so
rather put her in the horse barn where I could hear her.
I put her in the gun shop where it was warm.
I don't think that was a mistake any more than your
letting Elliot layin a pool of blood the day he died.
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HOWE COME you didn't just TRAIN your "LEAVE IT" command?:
"The barnyard has interesting smells and
tastes, "leave it" becomes useful."
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
Post by diddyCurious how many choose to crate a dog forever,
whenever they leave the house and/or overnight,
or how many choose to wean from household
crate usage (usage being shutting the dog in the
crate, not the dog choosing to hang out there) at
some specific ages or maturity levels.
Not for how long during a workday, but how
long for a dog's lifespan?
I plan on crating Tuck whenever NOT supervised
(which isn't often.. he usually is with me) Until the
day that he quits tearing apart everything in sight
when I leave the room.
A dog proof room doesn't work.
He's figured out door knobs. He's figured out cupboards,
and he loves to tug open dresser drawers. He's not
interested in anything left out in the open.
He's into treasure hunting, figuring anything worth
secreting away is worth his effort discovering. He's
discovered the sock stash is in drawers.
Trash cans? --not interested.
Counter tops? --not interested
Counter tops -with food? --not interested
Dog food sitting on the floorin open bags? --not interested
razor blades from bathroom drawers? ... Very cool stuff!
Mom really gets bent too!
nope.. His crate is going to be occupied for
some time to come.
As for the beagle.. She's never been trustworthy.
She's getting senile and never will be trustworthy,
so a crate is in her future until she crosses the bridge.
Reka, no crate at no time, She lost her crate when she was
5 months old. Both Tuck, and reka hangout in crates by choice.
Reka dens in the bathtub usually. (kind of a crate) But she
likes the beagles vantage point, because the beagles crate
is on top of Tuck's. Right next to the window so she can see
out. Tuck prefers the compartment with a view as well.
I always have to vacate him (even though the crate on top is
too small for both elkhounds, it's their preferred lookout)
when I wantto stick in the beagle.
Reka sleeps under the bed at night or in the bathtub at night
if it's really hot. She sleeps in the bathtub by day when not
watching from the penthouse suite.
Tuck is not crated at night, and has chosen to sleep in
the closet. The beagle holds down the couch, night and day.
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SEE?
HOWEver, it just keeps on gettin BETTER!:
Subject: Re: hyper puppy - normal?
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrThanks. She is a Brittany Spaniel. I yelp like
a puppy when she does it and sometimes that
works - sometimes she keeps after it though.
A swat on the nose or holding her snout
closed as I say "no bite" - will either of those
be okay to do if she keeps at it?
There are schools that say a 9wk old puppy is too
young to be held accountable for their actions, so
I'm not sure I'd crank up harsh corrections on them.
A swat on the nose may be in that realm at this
point. Holding the snout closed is more appropriate
with the "no" correction at this point if you ask me.
Puppys ARE accountable for their actions, and if
you don't start teaching them, when WILL they be
accountable?
Tuck was housebroken at 6 weeks old. And he had
already learned not to mouth people. WHY? Because
I taught him. (In the very same Method Jack Morrison
had already prescribed. It works) I do agree the poor
pup should not be face swatted.
In the same vein, I'm going to steal Jack's comments
about the Bigotry of low expectations. If you don't
believe a dog can do something, they surely can't.
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THAT SO?
Subject: Re: The kind of mess uneducated breeders are making
No idea what he is. He's supposed to be part chow, but he
looks more aussie/duck tolling retriever to me than anything
with a pomeranian tail.
His facial animations are hilarious, you can see the wheels
turning, and he's very engaging. The down side is, a kid from
next door came over and pulled his ears, and he bit the kid on
the face resulting in a $300,000 plastic surgery.
I have a zero tolerance for dog bites, and would normally
put a dog that did that down, but this dog was the victim
here.
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diddler wrote:
I think paper training is ALWAYS a bad idea if you ever plan
on expecting them to potty outside. It makes the process harder.
I suggest crate training her, so she can be managed in between
potty periods. After she goes outside successfully, she can then
have supervised free time until she's due for another potty interval.
Take her out if she doesn't go, crate her, and offer her frequent
trips outside until she's successful. No bedding in the crate.
When she nips, don't play any more.I'd crate her for rough play.
I also press athumb intheir soft palate, and let them" TRY" to
spit me out. They soon enough learn that I am something they
do NOT want in their mouths
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Subject: Re: Dog Noses in weird places.
Tuck was in a variable surface test last may.
It was hot (relatively.. it would be a pleasant
day compared to today)
Tuck found the first shade and quit.
Thus, he failed.
I had an opportunity to allow him
to finish the track, and he did so.
The tracking committee was unaware that there was
also a Homeland security disaster preparedness drill
that day on the same site that was Tucks track, so
he had to deal with National Guard, police, fire,
and ambulance services thronging around the school.
The throngs never rattled him, but the heat did.
He tracked right through the crowds, and laid down
in every shady spot he found. One time he crawled
under a police car parked along side the road.
The track layer nodded, and said.. that's where I walked.
Except Tuck had to be encouraged to come out, because He
found relief there.
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
Subject: Re: untrainable beagle! NEED HELP
Post by diddyi have a ten year old beagle who i got from the animal
shelter 5 years ago. its pretty clear he was abused in
some form before he ended up in the shelter; when ever
i reach for something, like the tv remote, too quickly he
flinches. he gets scared when i sweep the kitchen floor
and hides under the bed.
I have one too. I don't know her past history,or her age.
I use an antibark collar on her for my sanity. She's very
quiet, until I take it off. It doesn't train her not to bark,
because she barks when the collar is off. (beagles "Do
that")
There may not even be batteries in it, but she doesn't
bark... just in case.I'd supervise the first time you try
it, because I've heard of some dogs barking, and going
so spazzy over them that they died.
I really don't think you are going to train a dog that
age, especially a beagle, NOT to bark. I see your
options as being:
1) anti-bark collar
a)citronella
b)electronic
c)bark buster (your neighbors will
probably complain asmuch about
that as the howlng)
2) surgical debarking
3) placing the dog and accepting the consequences
4) moving
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BWEEEEAAAHAHAHAAAA~!~!~!
MOORE FUN W/DIDDY and what DANNY and
TAYA (with heelp from TOBY) did with the Vet's
OFFICE KITTEN after they got home from RUNNING
AWAY BUT DIDN'T CROSS A STREET!:
DIDDY ON CATS (shoot, don't trap)
From: diddy
(***@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST
Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet ownership.
I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes, Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.
I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.
To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny
will not look at a cat. When confronted with one,
Danny wees himself and cowers hiding behind me
for help.
I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has
never been harmed by any of the dogs. Danny is there
all the time, unsupervised, and has no interest in
harming the cat.
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DIDDY AND THE DOBERMAN WHO BLED
Post by diddyIt's explained on the AKC website. And I'm very sorry to
hear this. I too had a dog that I wanted to finish
Oh, here's one you finished alright, you finished her real
good because she made you late for work after you cut her
ears off.
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 13:03:37 -0400
From: diddy <***@nospam.diddy.net>
Organization: bright.net Ohio
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Post by diddyThere is a detailed explanation of the pain side of things
in the report I mentioned to Lone. If I can get the new
lead for my scanner [hopefully today], would you like me to
e-mail it to you so you have the veterinary
view of it ?
I someone crops ears, I feel it's for hygenic methods
as well as aesthetics. I'm not saying cropping is not
painful, taking two dobermans through cropping (one with
von Willebrawns.. and THAT was ugly -- and I finally put
her to sleep at one year old because I kept coming home
from work finding my house in a bloodbath every time I
came home from work, and was told I was going to get
fired for absentee if I continued to miss work in the
afternoons after coming home for lunch, and having to
run the dog to the vet.
The mental stress of dealing with such a dog was unreal,
dealing with the unknowns of what she was going to do next
(tear a nail, puncture herself, bruise herself.. the
emergencies she created for herself were unreal)She also
kept catching her dew claws on things, and I finally had
them removed.
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From: diddy <none>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:00:29 -0600
Local: Sun, Nov 11 2007 1:00 pm
Subject: And then there were......
I was prepared a few hours ago to post there were now
only two dogs. But after a trip to the Dayton Emergency
clinic, we are now only $200 poorer and brought home a
very torb'ed up beagle.
We estimate the beagle to be about 14.
This morning she had severe abdominal distress. Pacing,
whining, and crippling spasm, accompanied with the most
pitiful moans and groans you ever heard.
My husband said, if it's serious (LOOK HERE.. ANY PAIN OF
THAT MAGNITUDE IS SERIOUS!) we weren't going to fix it, we
would simply put her down. But she got out yesterday, and
indulged in a buffet of horse meadow muffins.
She may be impacted, and it might pass.
I told him she's in pain, and transient or not, we
have to do something about the pain while we
wait to see if the issue resolves or not.
So the vet said, if you aren't fixing it. Let's juice her
up on Torbugesic, healthy doses of antibiotics, with reglan
to move things along. We just treated everything. So if
there is improvement, we will assume fixable. If not.. I
will write that "And then there were two" post.
to be continued.....
Monday, November 12, 2007 7:39 AM
Beagle Report
"diddy" <none> wrote in message news:***@216.196.97.142...
Thank you everyone for your well wishes. Cappy woke
up this morning, bright, hungry and seems entirely
normal. Whatever it was, seems to have passed.
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Well, NOT REALLY after all...
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrThanks for asking. Yesterday was touch and go.
Yeah? As opposed to "bright, hungry and
seems entirely normal" on Monday mornin?:
Monday, November 12, 2007 7:39 AM
Beagle Report
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrShe went to the vet Sunday/Monday/Tuesday for ramped
up Torbugesic. As long as she was doped, things went
pretty well. When it wore off, things went down from
there.
What happened? Did she eat more POOP?
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrWhat a nightmare. In fact it brought back the panic
I went through with Champ when he got blocked after
eating cat litter years ago.
Naaaah?
Oh, you mean JUST LIKE HOWE your other dogs Tuck,
Reka and Danny swallowed CRAP like your veterinarians
OFFICE KITTY, an nearly DIED?
"diddy" <***@nospam.diddy.net> wrote in message
News:***@216.196.97.142...
My dogs aren't into beer that much.
But they sure love Horse poop!
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BWEEEAAAAHAHAAA~!
"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies
are going to come back and bite you. I don't understand
how, you as a trainer, don't comprehend this.
Having a 100% reliable dog does not
EVER allow for mitigated circumstances.
A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.
You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.
I think that should be expected of any breed, and
those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
atre missing the boat"
BWEEEAAAHAHAAAA~!~!~!
diddler might have to MURDER him like HOWE she done
Danny and had the same RESULTS terri done when she
MURDERED her DEAD DOG Mojo <{}: ~ ( >
diddler the shit stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:
"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies
are going to come back and bite you. I don't understand
how, you as a trainer, don't comprehend this.
Having a 100% reliable dog does not
EVER allow for mitigated circumstances.
A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.
You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.
I think that should be expected of any breed, and
those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
atre missing the boat"
BWEEEEAAAHAHAAAA~!~!~!
Post by diddyI wonder if the screaming was just her coming
out of the drugs, and nothing to do with pain?
No she was pain, because you could see her cringing.
And she just passed one big solid rock hardball.. so I
think she was just constipated. I think there are more
to come, and since i posted, she's still whimpered a few
times, I think this was a blockage issue and the reglan
moved things along.
We weren't going to operate if it was a blockage.
We simply would have put her down.
Well When Cappy was sick last week, my husband said,
she's old, she's not worth anything, and we aren't going to
put the money into saving her that you would put into your
dogs. We just aren't going to fix anything.
HUH?
Well I can understand not giving her a kidney transplant
if she needed one... but look it.. she's in pain.
Him: wait and see if she gets over it.
Me: She's in pain
Him: Well I'm not going to go out and shoot her, if she
can just pass this thing she swallowed.
Me: She's in pain.
Tuck finally demanded that I take care of her, and I told
my husband, I was taking her to Dayton Emergency Hospital...
because she's in pain. I won't fix anything, but we ARE doing
pain management while we see if she recovers or not.
So i shamed him into going, and the vet treated her for a
bunch of potential problems, and we diagnosed nothing.
Three days later, three consecutive Emergency vet visits and
$600 poorer, and one better beagle... We both agree, it isn't
about what a dog is worth, it's about basic needs. We now have
a very expensive old beagle, and she feels like she was worth
every penny. So do I. I've never even had any emotional
investment in the dog. But she doesn't deserve to suffer.
We won't ever fix anything on her.. but she's entitled to her
comfortable place holding down the couch, and living pain
free until her time comes.
This time was not her time.
We both learned a lesson over this beagle. My husband learned
that it's not about worth. Every life has worth. If you take
responsibility for a life, it then takes on a value.
You have made a contract with that life for food, shelter,
and at the very basic level... a life without unreasonable
pain.
My husband learned something about me. Even though i have
never made a commitment to that dog, i have now, because
she was not allowed to live under my roof in pain.
I learned something about that beagle. Even though we have
both shared the same roof for probably 5-6 years, and I
never recognized her as our beagle, but more the beagle that
came, and stayed, and her owners never came looking for her,
It just occurred to me, that she's ours NOW.
And i share your sentiments about being appalled at what some
people consider basics, others consider luxuries. I can make
a living (and DO) on the stuff my wealthy neighbors across the
street throw away.
My son's father in law and I were sitting at the table cutting
up a deer this afternoon. And were discussing the same thing..
Basic NEEDS, and WANTS, and distinguishing the difference.
To me, a luxury is paying my dialup internet. I can live
without the internet. The internet to me is an indulgence
but very cheap entertainment. We were laughing about his
daughter's (My daughter in laws) compulsion to shop, and
her lack of recognition to tell the difference between
NEED and want.
And there is a Chasm between the two.
Obviously a roof over my head is a need to me. But people
survive on the streets homeless. Therefore, even then my
definition of NEED becomes a luxury.
If you stop and think about it, even living a very bare
bones existance is pretty luxurious. I am a lavish
spender. I have pets. nuff said.
NOT QUITE, diddler:
diddler the shit stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:
"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies
are going to come back and bite you. I don't understand
how, you as a trainer, don't comprehend this.
Having a 100% reliable dog does not
EVER allow for mitigated circumstances.
A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.
You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
Date: December 29, 2006 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: Dog chewing up floors
Post by diddyI, for one, am glad that the Puppy Wizard comes across
as a complete loon given what his advice is since it
makes it less likely that people will take it instead
of the advice of someone else I think gives better advice.
For the record, The Puppy wizard over-rates himself. But
"his" (tm) methods are pretty much tried and true methods
that trainers have used and some still use today.
There are better methods out there now. But the ones posted
in his manual (now that he has removed the advice to SPIKE
a dog's temperature to dangerous levels) are sound. they work..
no matter what we think of the puppy-wizard and his packaging...
"his methods" <cough> are just as valid as anyone else's
"His methods" can stand some updating, and he definitely
needs to look at some repackaging.
Hopefully others add a slicker delivery to grab attention,
but truthfully, when you look at the cat fights that go on
here, and stand back and watch in perspective, it's rather
hard to determine the sane ones from the lunatics.
In fact, an awful lot of people here come off looking
rather tainted. A person needs to have a good filtering
device to sort out the noise.
TPW just has a problem that's too painfully obvious.
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You mean, LIKE THIS?:
HOWEDY diddler you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal
murderin punk thug coward active acute chronic life long
incurable malignant mental case and backyard PUPPY MILLER /
professional dog trainin FRAUD an SCAM ARTIST,
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrIIRC, we used a version of this method in obedience class
for Zoe and Queenie. It was usually a long leash, and it
helped to enforce the come, mainly by getting their attention.
Of course, after they did come, we gave them a treat and
praised them to the skies.
The dogs had already learned sit and stay, but sometimes
their eyes would drift and it could be hard to get their
attention.
Eventually we learned to have them come without the leash,
but almost everything was done on- leash to start with.
ceb, We teach the recall on a long lead in obedience classes also.
That so, diddler?
Post by diddyWe had a dog leave the building once, and for
liability reasons, we use a long line..
Oh? What happened? Did your idiot imbecile son leave the
door open like HOWE he done your front gate an let your
dogs escape an get whacked by a car AGAIN?:
"I was in that position once when Becky was hit
by a car when my son left the yard gate open."
Post by diddyIn fact, I belong to 3 obedience dog clubs,
and all three teach the recall on a long line.
That so, diddler?
Post by diddyAnd if I had a dog that didn't come, I would be
teaching my dog that way at home too.
That so, diddler?
Post by diddyI've never needed to,
Oh, you mean on accHOWENTA you just SHOCK your dog
when IT blows you off, ain't that correct, diddler?
LIKE THIS:
"When Tuck was a little guy, all of a sudden he started blowing
me off on recall. Yes, Yes i did, put him on a remote collar. It
took one time (he hadn't established a pattern yet) and it fixed
the problem. When I call, he doesn't even think about it. he turns
and is on the run.
I think a dog should have a sound recall base before doing the
remote trainer. As he ran the other direction, I upped the stim
a level, it took twice in one training session and NOT coming
has never been a thought since."
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAA!!!
"And if I had a dog that didn't come, I would
be teaching my dog that way at home too. I've
never needed to,"
That so, diddler?
Post by diddybut since the OP is having issues, your advice is spot on.
Oh, you mean, LIKE THIS, diddler?:
diddler the shit stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:
"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies
are going to come back and bite you. I don't understand
how, you as a trainer, don't comprehend this.
Having a 100% reliable dog does not
EVER allow for mitigated circumstances.
A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.
You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.
I think that should be expected of any breed, and
those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
atre missing the boat"
ALL ABOARD~!
BWEEEAAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
diddler the shit stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:
"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies
are going to come back and bite you. I don't understand
how, you as a trainer, don't comprehend this.
Having a 100% reliable dog does not
EVER allow for mitigated circumstances.
A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.
You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.
I think that should be expected of any breed,
and those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
atre missing the boat"
Here's diddler TRAININ her neighbor's dog
to stay HOWETA her garbage:
"My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing
Up Trash Up And Down Our Road For Years Making
An Unbelievable Mess. When We Finally Killed The
Culprit, The Whole Road Cheered," diddler.
From: diddy (***@diddy.net)
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST
I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way
I would react. There would be none left standing
to deal with the threat just in case.
If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
continents stop me from pursuing justice.
Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If
someone is feeding his dog outside, his own
dog might not mean THAT much to him.
If he was feeding his dog outside though, many
dogs are food aggressive, and that could most
certainly spark a dog aggression thing.
(and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what
was it doing in his yard?)
I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
horses and called him to help me find it. I would
do the same for threatening my dog.
My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
trash up and down our road for years making an
unbelievable mess.
When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
cheered. Animal control had never been able in
years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)
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From: diddy <***@diddy.net>
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 11:27:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdr| My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
| trash up and down our road for years making an
| unbelievable mess. When we finally killed the
| culprit, the whole road cheered. Animal control
| had never been able in years to catch this critter.
| (we think it was feral it was certainly unkempt
| enough to have been....and it had been shot at by
| MANY of the neighbors, but it never frightened
| it off enough to keep it from NOT tearing up the
| road the next trash day)
Y'all take killing dogs pretty lightly. I'd have tolerated
the trash problem before I would have killed the dog.
No kidding.
Post by WakeBdrBut putting up with it wouldn't have been necessary.
The trash could have been better secured and the
problem would have been resolved.
Yep. Where's the condemnation of the people not
securing their trash. Especially since, IIRC, this is
the country we're talking about.
Cate
They were in the standard Rumpke plastic
waste containers they MUST be in.
If you are upset I advise you to keep your dogs at home.
As i repeated before, the time Danny and Taya got loose,
for all the dangers they faced out there, cars, disease,
coyotes, etc, the most immediate danger they were in,
was being shot.
This is why I immediately started canvassing the area
with full color door to door handouts emblazoned with
REWARD. DO NOT SHOOT these dogs across the top.
I knew every second they were loose, they were in grave
danger of being shot. At that time, Our dog pound was
on 20/20 for being one of the worst in the country (it's
not now, it's a modern model facility) i WANTED my
dogs there.
It meant they weren't out there being shot.
They would throw dogs in pens of 10-20 dogs, In spite
of the dirt and filth, if they got there, I had a chance
of recovery.
Roaming in this area is a very bad thing,
and people WILL shoot dogs.
Happens all the time.
If you like your dog, you keep it home.
A persons personal animals are more valueable to
them than your animal you don't think enough of
to keep at home.
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LIKE THIS:
From: diddy <***@nospam.diddy.net>
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:30:27 -0500
Local: Wed, Mar 6 2002 8:30 am
Subject: Re: teaching dogs "jobs"
(They were taught NEVER EVER to step on a road.... No foot EVER
touches the road!) Danny lost a tracking test once, because the
test crossed a seldom used gravel road. When he reached the road,
a car just happened to go by. He refused to cross the road, and
when I took him by the collar and nudged him, I was Disqualified
for aiding the dog. Danny simply will NOT cross a road.. when he
was intact, not EVEN for a bitch in season.
Now you have a dog that...
WHOOOOPS!
Whoops, Danny And Taya run away from
unsecured yard and imbecile owner BUT
CAREFULLY AVOID CROSSIN A ROAD.
Will they survive life out in the wilderness
out amongst diddler's coyote traps?
Will they get mistaken for coyotes and sold
to the highest bidder at the fur auction?
Or will they live again to do a help dummy diddy
do a demonstration on safe and responsible pet
ownership in the kitchen with the vet's office kitten?
Stay tuned, fans...
Post by diddySubject: Off Topic --MISSING DOGS
Date: 1999/04/14
I realize this has absolutely nothing to do with
Disney. Parks, but since those of us on this
newsgroup are from all over the country, I thought
you would understand this one time intrusion. We
are desperate to find these dogs....Please, if you
have any information, contact the e-mail address
at the bottom of the note. Thank you for your
understanding.........
Karyl Parks' (aka diddler) dog Danny - Ch. Alpha's
Decorum (I think that is his correct registered name)
is missing . For those that have never met Danny -
he is very special. Both trained for Search and
Rescue
You'd think her SAR dog could find his own way
back to his own HOWES, provided they ain't gotta
CROSS A ROAD gettin back???
Post by diddyas well as service dog trained, CDX, etc.
But IT can't find ITS way back to his own HOWES?
Post by diddyHe does all the things that service dogs do
Like run HOWET on his people and not return?
Post by diddyfrom opening doors, turning on lights, getting
clothes and shoes.
You FORGOT MURDERIN the vet's office kitty kat
and escaping and destructively chewing a rug and
gettin locked in a box in an HOWEtbuilding to muffle
his CRYING till he was SHITTIN BLOOD and went in
for intestinal obstruction.
Post by diddyHe is a marvel.
Naaah. You want a MARVEL? **MARVEL** at
that STUPID KAT that PAINICKED when diddler
snared IT in her leg hold STRANGLE / CHOKE
choke trap. She'd have BLUDGEONED IT had IT
not been wearin a collar. Perhaps she was lookin
for a REWARD, bein a SUBSISTANCE hunter
and all.
You call tying the dog to a wall training, diddler,
like HOWE you trained your fence to train your dog?
diddy wrote:
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
Post by diddyWe have a beagle. Before we got our last one, we
knew what to expect and spent a year re-enforcing
the fence.
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
Post by diddyDouble fencing, hardware cloth lined on the inside.
Wood ties under gates. A chicken wire apron extending
out into the yard 12 inches. (hog ringed to the upright
fencing). We chose chicken wire because it was flexible
and ground conforming. grass grows right over it, making
it invisible and easy to mow over. It's tacked down by tent
stakes every 10 inches. (this is our most considerable
investment)
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
Post by diddyThe problems with it is that it eventually disintegrates,
rusts, pulls apart and need repair a lot. We placed tile
blocks over the top, because the tent stakes stick up,
and sometimes get hit by the lawnmower.
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
Post by diddyOverall, it's a pretty decent system and works
MOST of the time.
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
Post by diddyThe beagle is persistent, and tends to work the inner
fencing, that's flimsy down, or tear it, making exit holes.
We recently cut down a couple yard trees that broke down
sections of the fence and they need re-enforcement.
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
Post by diddyWhen the weather breaks, a whole new fence
is in order, but the system works MOST of the time.
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
Post by diddyWe did install an underground perimeter E-fence
at the fence line, and found a single strand 12 inch
high electric cattle fence around the perimeter was
just as effective, cheaper, less bothersome (no need
to wear heavy e-collars.. especially that mess up coats),
but both needed occassional maintenence.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyI admit our system fails occassionally, especially
when snow drifts are over the top of the fences
and erase any identifiable fenceline.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyWe installed (BEFORE getting the beagle) a 100
foot trolly line that crosses the yard.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyThis is a safe, effective restraint system that has
always worked when immediate repairs or extra
security is desired.
If I go away and leave the beagle outside. He goes
to the trolly line, whether the containment system
is currently working or not.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyIt's great for emergency situations, and the $17
last resort system gets used for the beagle far
more than I ever expected. It still allows reasonable
exercise range of area and mobility. The elkhounds
and the beagle still play avidly, and it's the cheapest
piece of mind security ever.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyA trolly tether system is the best for temporary
containment while discovering where the leak
is. In the snow, it's easy to discover the
leak. In the summer, it's more difficult.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyI do not like, or use our current underground collar system
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!
Post by diddyBecause she's IMPORTANT to me.I'm proud of her. She
wasn't competing in anything. But she's an integral part
of my life, and It never occurred to me NOT to take her.
AS STATED, on accHOWENTA
YOU CAN'T LEAVE HER ALONE.
Post by diddyNo one Inquired about her titles, or lack of.
Hey diddler? Remember when you went over to timmy
aka buzzsaw's and jerked an choked an shocked his
dog till IT couldn't be jerked an choked an shocked
nodoGdameneD more and STILL COULDN'T TRAIN
him not to chase squirrels?
Post by diddyThey remarked that she was a very well behaved,
well adjusted, nice dog. And that she is. It doesn't
take a title to prove that. And She's beautiful....
She's the prettiest Dog I've ever had. She has
no championship, Nor does she need one to
acknowledge her beauty. She's Comfort food.
Yeah. And you're INSANE. AND a LIAR.
Here's diddler hurting and murderin
Post by diddy2002-08-23 09:18:08 PST
Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It
leaped, and tangled itself, and most certainly
strangulated it's intestines. It had the snare
pulled tight down to the diameter of a dime (just
large enough to encircle the spine) around the waist
area. This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to
extricate this cat was exceedingly difficult, not to
mention dangerous. Because I feared damage to the
intestines and death of the gut, I imagined
this cat was not likely to survive.
It would have been much simpler to dispatch the
unfortunate cat and take out the dead body. Instead,
this cat wore a collar. it deserved a chance, and
the owner deserved closure. (no id on the collar) .
It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be
taken to the vet for examination. I will probably
never know if this particular cat survives the
experience or not.
People in the area were aware that trapping was
being done and apparently still let their cats run
free, both endangered by the traps and by the
coyotes being targeted that are causing a problem
with their cat population.
Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not
have tried to release this hostile cat. Releasing it
may not have been a kindness, but then... cats
weren't supposed to be attracted to this type of
trap, in this position, and then they weren't
supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this
situation. If you like your pet, you keep them home.
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Date: December 29, 2006 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: Dog chewing up floors
Post by diddyI, for one, am glad that the Puppy Wizard comes across
as a complete loon given what his advice is since it
makes it less likely that people will take it instead
of the advice of someone else I think gives better advice.
For the record, The Puppy wizard over-rates himself. But
"his" (tm) methods are pretty much tried and true methods
that trainers have used and some still use today.
There are better methods out there now. But the ones posted
in his manual (now that he has removed the advice to SPIKE
a dog's temperature to dangerous levels) are sound. they work..
no matter what we think of the puppy-wizard and his packaging...
"his methods" <cough> are just as valid as anyone else's
"His methods" can stand some updating, and he definitely
needs to look at some repackaging.
Hopefully others add a slicker delivery to grab attention,
but truthfully, when you look at the cat fights that go on
here, and stand back and watch in perspective, it's rather
hard to determine the sane ones from the lunatics.
In fact, an awful lot of people here come off looking
rather tainted. A person needs to have a good filtering
device to sort out the noise.
TPW just has a problem that's too painfully obvious.
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
diddler the shit stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:
From: diddy <***@scared.to.death.with.our.political.situation>
Subject: Separation Anxiety
All this talk of SA. Thios goes way off topic, but it's
SA to the extreme.. but goes both ways. I know Danny has
Separation anxiety. He doesn't do physical damage, he
internalizes it.
Which I wish he wouldn't.
The vets all try to "fix" it and consider it a real problem.
I don't see it that way. I feel physically ill without him.
So it's mutual. I have made sure Reka does not EVER get that
attached. I do not want "our" mutual separation anxiety fixed.
I just take Danny me everywhere, and am honored by his company.
I resent the vets that they consider this a "problem". In fact,
I stole him out of a specialists care that thought the SA should
be fixed right then and there. They kept me out in the waiting
room for five days and nights, while my dog was on the other
side of the door.
He escaped, knowing I would be there for him. He opened, what
they considered inescapable cages, under 24 hour observation.
It takes 2 hands to operate the latch, and apparently he used
a paw and a tongue to break free dragging his intubations and
iv's with him as he burst into the waiting room to be with me.
I burst into tears and was so happy to see him.
The doctors couldn't throw me out of there, because it was
a 24 hour clinic. But they decided his SA was inconducive
to his health. They were going to fix it right then and there.
They ordered that I was NOT to see my dog.
I was deeply resentful of this, and the next time Danny
escaped (and he did) I grabbed him and ran from the clinic.
I called my vet on the 2 hour trip home, and told him I was
on my way home with my dog, and he needed supportive care.
My vet allowed me to stay with my dog.
He had excellent care. Top Notch. But I don't understand why
vets seem to think THEY own the dog while in their care. I
was paying for this.
I don't and never understood how a vet seemed to think they
have the right to keep you from your pet. I would never take
my dog back there. Apparently since he had been passed from
specialist to specialist, this was the only place that could
perform the surgery he needed. But they were totally insensitive
to the emotional needs of both dog and client.
-----------------------
diddler the shit stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:
I think 4 hours or so, I had put him in a supposedly
"Secure" place, while I had to leave. When I got
home, he had trashed my house. From then on,
when I left, he got put in the horse stall.
He trashed my horse stall.
He then got a new horse stall, wore a E-collar,
I electrified the perimeter of the stall and we
were finally able to contain him while we worked
on his escape problems.
Once he learned that I was more determined to
defeat him, he finally subdued. But escaping, to
him was a game.
Both of us had a throughly miserable time during
the stand off. The dog is actually now a very good
citizen. He just had to meet someone more determined,
and stubborn and willing to go the distance to do what
it took, before he would stop.
Like I said, I thought he and I were going
to grow old together.
I am not going to go into exactly where we
went before we got that accomplished.
Let's just say it was "ugly"
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"diddy" <***@nospam.diddy.net> wrote in message news:***@216.196.97.132...
I loathe that ear cropping is done. On traditionally ear-
cropped dogs, I LIKE them that way. I wouldn't have a
doberman any other way. I had two dobermans, and thought
their ear croppings brutal. i don't consider tail docking
brutal.
I prefer men circumcised. I guess that's TMI. If my husband
suffered from the procedure, he's gotten over it.
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DIDDY AND THE DOBERMAN WHO BLED
TOO MUCH for her OWN GOOD
Post by diddyIt's explained on the AKC website. And I'm very sorry to
hear this. I too had a dog that I wanted to finish
Oh, here's one you finished alright, you finished her real
good because she made you late for work after you cut her
ears off.
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 13:03:37 -0400
From: diddy <***@nospam.diddy.net>
Organization: bright.net Ohio
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Post by diddyThere is a detailed explanation of the pain side of things
in the report I mentioned to Lone. If I can get the new
lead for my scanner [hopefully today], would you like me to
e-mail it to you so you have the veterinary
view of it ?
I someone crops ears, I feel it's for hygenic methods
as well as aesthetics. I'm not saying cropping is not
painful, taking two dobermans through cropping (one with
von Willebrawns.. and THAT was ugly -- and I finally put
her to sleep at one year old because I kept coming home
from work finding my house in a bloodbath every time I
came home from work, and was told I was going to get
fired for absentee if I continued to miss work in the
afternoons after coming home for lunch, and having to
run the dog to the vet.
The mental stress of dealing with such a dog was unreal,
dealing with the unknowns of what she was going to do next
(tear a nail, puncture herself, bruise herself.. the
emergencies she created for herself were unreal)She also
kept catching her dew claws on things, and I finally had
them removed.
---------------------------
Hello diddler,
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrI don't know what to do anymore.
Until about 7 months ago my 9 yo. mix was absolutely fine.
But from one day to the other she started waking me up in
the morning at around 4:30 to 5am by running around restlessly
(hardwood floor) or simply sitting as close as possible to my
bed and breathing heavily, almost sticking her tongue in my ear.
He should spray Binaca or citronella in ITS face or lock
his dog in a crate in an outbuilding to muffle its noise.
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrShe does that for about an hour - sleep of course is impossible - just
to lay down eventually and her falling asleep again. At that point I am
sleep deprived and exhausted.
Don't put her out in the barn, that won't muffle the noise.
Put her in a secure out building in a crate and enjoy your peace.
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrI tried anything I could come up with: check the food,
check the water, check with the doctor if she's sick,
walk her more, walk her later, talk to her, pet her,
calm her, command her, nothing helps.
Not to worry. She'll be fine in the outbuilding if she's
locked in her crate. You'll get used to the noise.
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrI have simply no idea what's wrong with her. She does it
EVREY night, sometimes for 15 minutes, sometimes for two
hours. She never did it when she was younger, and I didn't
change anything in her or my life.
No problem. Just don't reward her for her bad behaviors.
Lock her in a crate outside and don't let her out if she's
making noise or you'll spoil her.
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrPlease help me to get her (and me) sleeping again.
Just lock her outside in a box and enjoy your beauty rest.
Post by diddyAny marked behaviour change, to me indicates
a trip to the vet is validated.
Unless you just lock the dog in a box in an outbuilding cause
punishing and locking her in the horse stall doesn't work for
barking at nite when your dogs is busting a gut from eating
the barricade you built to protect your garbage.
Post by diddyI have had dogs panting at my bedside uncharacteristicly.
Yeah. And you punish them for that. And then you locked her in
the horse barn but you could still hear her cry. So you locked
her in another outbuilding in a crate cause she was going manic
with a TWISTED GUT from compulsive destructive chewing cause you
punish choke and intimidate your dogs, diddler.
Post by diddyWe did diagnostics
You waited till she was shittin blood after crying
and barking for three nites in a row, diddler.
Post by diddyand EVENTUALLY we DID find a physical cause.
Destructive chewing twisted her intestines, and you locked
her out cause you got tired of punishing her so you could rest.
Post by diddyMy one girl had addisons.
And the other had a twisted gut and was crying for three
nites straight in agony, begging you to help her, so you
removed her to an even MOORE remote location.
Post by diddyMy boy had pancreatitis. My puppy had eaten splinters.
Before that, my boy had bleeding stomach ulcers
Not surprising. These are all a result of
compulsive anxiety disorder syndrome.
Post by diddySome took a great deal of testing and expense,
Yeah, took three days of tesing your dog in a box locked
in an outbuilding before the BLOOD WORK came back from
the laboratory in your bathtub. I guess your dog goes to
the bathtub to crap when you won't get outta bed to put
her out cause you'll abuse her if she has an accident,
after all, look what you do to her just for being SICK
because of garbage she's chewed because you drive her
INSANE with your choking and punishment and crating.
Post by diddyand sometimes specialists to find.
So, you think it requires a scientist to diagnose intestinal
bleeding when your dog starts shtittin blood after ignoring
her crying for three nites straight?
Post by diddyBut in every case of one of my dogs having a changed
behavior, I have ferretted out the source with veterinary
help.
Because after three nites of constant agony and crying and
barking, she finally started shittin blood all over your
HOWES and that makes you upset. That's HOWE COME
she shits in the tub, cause she knows you'll abuse her if she
has an accident, diddler.
NO WONDER everyone thinks I'm a liar. NOBODY would believe this.
That's HOWE COME I quote you lying dog abusing Thugs so people
will get wise to you. UNFORTUNATELY, the quotes are so horrendous,
NOBODY believes them unless they can find the original source.
That's HOWE COME I've come in here to identify, expose,
and discredit our lying dog abusing Thugs, like you didddler.
According to our friend diddler you know the dog needs
to go out when they start shittin blood after barking
and crying for three nites straight locked in a crate
in an outbuilding to muffle her crying..
HOWE about that?
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Here's diddler breedin her GENETICALLY DEFECTIVE puppy mill dogs:
From: diddy <***@diddy.net>
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 08:55:27 -0500
Subject: Re: thunk thunk thunk
Many of us have raised pups without a mother.
Danny's mother was sent back to the breeder that I
leased her from when he was one week old. I don't
think it hurt him any. (long horror story on that..
I leased her, and part of the lease agreement was
that the breeder was to get half the litter. I
did not think she had a suitable temperament to
breed, and thus the breeder wouldn't allow me to
return the bitch until i paid in full.
I kept her for two years arguing why she should NOT
be bred, and finally bred her just so I could send
her back.
She was a top producing bitch.. but a flakehead) But
the reason was that she never got milk. She wasn't
the the role model I wanted for the litter (She was
sound fearful).
The litter went to work with me in a backpack. They
were off the bottle and eating from a pan at 2 weeks.
They were walking at 7 days, and had their eyes open
at nine days.
The entire litter was housebroken at 6 weeks. (Danny
was carrying around his favorite ducky at his 7 days -
-reading notes off the litter development records)
The litter was raised by the Carmen Battaglia Superpuppy
protocol, It was a lot of hard work, and worth it. Keeping
the mother with the litter is recommended, and had it been
most any other Dam, I would have kept her with the litter
in spite of having no milk. I think it turned out pretty well.
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA!!
in thread news:***@207.115.17.102:
Shelly
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrI wouldn't have done the Reka incident any differently,
UNLESS I knew before hand that she had swallowed tarp strings.
So the difference between you and Lynn is that Lynn
actually learns from her mistakes. Interesting!
There you go with twisted logic. How did I know
she was in distress and not coyote howling?
you are one twisted sister.
And anyone who agrees with your take on this are
doing so in support of the cabal. You are reaching.
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NOT AT ALL. You'd KNOW if your dog was "coyote
HOWEling" Vs bein DEATHLY ILL in accHOWENTA coyote
HOWEling is a BEHAVIOR PROBLEM and therefore CAN BE
EXXXTINGUISHED NEARLY INSTANTLY just like ANY
behavior problem, unless of curse, you're a IMBECILE <{}: ~ ) >
Here's more:
Tuck is and has been fighting Pano and HOD since
5 days AFTER his distemper shot. (I had it done at
humane society vaccine clinic) My vet recommends the
distemper shot being given separately. yes,it takes
another trip to the vet.
The distemper shot is well known forcausing vaccine
reactions and even auto-immune response. (well thats
what vaccines DO..is kickin the auto-immune system)
But over loading an immune system can cause unwanted
reactions. In Tuck,it took the form of HOD/PANO.
There has to be some genetic predisposition to auto-immune
response as well. Tuck's Daddy had bad food allergies. (an
auto-immune response) and that should have alerted me toa
predisposition.
But I didn't realize the distemper shot would set off a
change of reactions that will last for one to two years.
My vet says, NEXT year, to be sure to re-vaccinate him with
the same distemper company that manufactured the distemper
shot that he recieved that caused the problem. Make sure he
recieves the distemper shot SEPARATELY from the rest.
Part of his treatment protocal is toFeed him large breed
puppy food (even though he is not a large breed dog) to
slow his growth.
So yes. in answer to your question, I have experienced a
reaction to the distemper shot. Or my dog has.. It's not
the same reaction as you are describing. But yes, I have.
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BWEEEEAAAHAAAHAAAAHAAAA~!~!~!
Re: [ot] good thoughts please
.
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrmy new puppy, Tuck, grabbed a raw chicken wing and
wolfed it down on sunday. He's been in the hospital
daily, admitted sometimes, and home montored others.
He's been supported supported daily by fluids,
hoping he would pass it, but he's destabilizing fast,
and has just gone into surgery to have it removed from
his stomach, and his intestines have intuscepted from
being empty for so long, and they need surgery also.
He's lost more than half his body weight in the last
two days. please send a positive thought for him. I
know a lot of you don't like me. but he's not
responsible for his owners behavior.
Of course you have all the good thoughts we can
muster around here.
Do we have a report from today yet? I read
the one where he's a bit better....
His prognosis is really poor, even though his vital signs
are still good. he can walk to go out to potty, but he's
so painful he didn't want to.
he's miserable but drugged to the gills. He met me with
a meekly wagging tail. his face is swollen and his legs
are swollen, because he does not have the body protein
to assimilate the fluids.
When they did the surgery, his intestines were all stuck
together in one big adhesion. His intestines were even
stuck to his bladder, and they pulled them all apart, but
they wanted to glue themselves back almost immediately.
if they do that, he will die.
And this is what they were trying to do during the
surgery. I asked him if this is the case, why didn't
we just put him down?
I don't want him hurting like this, if he's not going
to survive it anyway. He said "no, beca...." and I
didn't hear the rest, the room got all green and hazy
and I had to sit down on the floor before I passed out.
So I really don't know why we are fighting to save him
if his prognosis is so poor. I told the vet to stop
talking.
He has peritonitis , no penetrations were evident from
the chicken bones, but we are assuming it was related
to the chicken wings. But he is also showing bone
anomalies similar to those dogs with a viral infection.
Viral infections can also cause abdominal adhesions.
so there were biopsies sent off for culture and testing.
He's also a low birthweight puppy, and my vet has suspected
there was a viral infection going on since birth, even
before he was born, because of lack of bone development
on the xrays.
when he looked at the prenatal xrays, he felt this litter
was in trouble. when they were low birthweight, he has
been working on that hunch, and he's been treating this
pup from the beginning as a suspect viral issue with an
immune mediated response.
his breeder calls my vet an idiot.
The massive adhesions he found also increased his suspicions
that this was not just the chicken bones but an ongoing problem.
he wanted to do the biopsy and i told him NO. (he tends to test
and test as if my dogs were lab rats) I need this dog fixed, and
regardless of the cause, the treatment is the same.
he says he needs to know and is paying for the test himself.
he says this information may be critical to his sister (who
is not exhibiting any problems btw) so he can suspect whatever
he wants, but i think he's looking for zebras, when he's
actually looking at a horse.
The lab work he is doing will confirm his hunch. it's his dime.
If he's right, Della (his sister) will also need to know.
if he's wrong, it hasn't hurt anything, and it didn't cost
me a dime. If he had a small pinhole leak from the bones,
it could also have set up the massive peritonitis.
Frankly, he ate the chicken wing, and was sick the next day.
Sometimes a horse is just a horse.
He started telling me how they handled the adhesion binding
and why he shouldn't be given up on, and why he thought he
had a chance, but I honestly didn't hear it, and asked him
to stop talking, because the fear of losing my little guy
was just so overwhelming, that I couldn't take any more.
the room was spinning, I was about to wretch and pass out.
I never heard what he had done to prevent that. He was about
to give me the good news, but I never heard it. The bad news
was so bad, I just wasn't in condition to assimilate any more.
This little guy was very similar to his Dad. They even keep
calling him Danny in the clinic, because he looks just like
him.
He's been a remarkable puppy, and shows endless talent.
We tried out for Ohio Task force one a couple weeks ago, and
he was the youngest one there by eight months! And he did the
best job of anyone. I was soooooo proud of him. I was very
proud of his performance. he's been a delight to train with
no apparent fears, tons of courage, biddability, and desire
to please.
I decided not to follow that route because orientation tapes
renewed old memories that reminded me even if I could (which
I had doubts) do the work, I was not willing to put my dog at
risk to the hazards that Task force One dogs are subject to.
He takes his tasks willingly and seriously .. he's a lot like
his dad. He's a very talented tracking dog, a wonderful gentleman,
consummate clown, noble companion, loyal friend, and helpful
assistant.
It's hard to believe that you can get so attached so fast.
He feels to everyone who meets him as a continuum of his father,
with the stability of his mother.
He runs out to the road, gets the newspaper and brings it
in as one of his favorite tasks. He looks for jobs he can
do, and picks up all the dog pans after eating, and hands
them to me, just like his dad did. He's constantly on the
prowl looking for something he can do where he can help.
He fills all the places that his dad used to be. No he
won't replace his dad, but he's filled the huge gaping
chasm that his dad left, and eased the hurt, and created
joy.
He also has his joyful moments. He likes to ride in the
car, and adjusts the air vents to blow in his face. He
hasn't learned to turn the cold control knobs yet, or he
would turn the car into a mobile igloo. He has learned
to operate door knobs, and nothing is out of his reach
unless crated.
Leaving the house for a few minutes and coming in to his
surprises such as finding bras dangling from ceiling fans,
and his projects strewn from one end of the house to the
other, or finding him all wrapped up in venetian blinds
as he tried to follow my progress outside, reminds me he
is NOT his dad, and is his ownunique personality.
Although I might look at his antics with discernment,
afterwards, it's good for a chuckle.
He's a puppy after all, and needs to be contained
when he's not being supervised.
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Here's diddler's MOST SUCCESSFUL trainin -
Here's diddler trainin her neighbor's
dog to stay HOWETA her garbage can:
"My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing Up Trash
Up And Down Our Road For Years Making An Unbelievable
Mess. When We Finally Killed The Culprit, The Whole
Road Cheered," diddler.
From: diddy (***@diddy.net)
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST
I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way
I would react. There would be none left standing
to deal with the threat just in case.
If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
continents stop me from pursuing justice.
Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If
someone is feeding his dog outside, his own
dog might not mean THAT much to him.
If he was feeding his dog outside though, many
dogs are food aggressive, and that could most
certainly spark a dog aggression thing.
(and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what
was it doing in his yard?)
I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
horses and called him to help me find it. I would
do the same for threatening my dog.
My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
trash up and down our road for years making an
unbelievable mess.
When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
cheered. Animal control had never been able in
years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)
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From: diddy <***@nospam.diddy.net>
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:30:27 -0500
Local: Wed, Mar 6 2002 8:30 am
Subject: Re: teaching dogs "jobs"
(They were taught NEVER EVER to step on a road....
No foot EVER touches the road!) Danny lost a tracking
test once, because the test crossed a seldom used
gravel road. When he reached the road, a car just
happened to go by.
He refused to cross the road, and when I took him by
the collar and nudged him, I was Disqualified for aiding
the dog. Danny simply will NOT cross a road.. when he was
intact, not EVEN for a bitch in season.
Now you have a dog that...
WHOOOOPS!
Whoops, Danny And Taya run away from
unsecured yard and imbecile owner BUT
CAREFULLY AVOID CROSSIN A ROAD.
Will they survive life out in the wilderness
out amongst diddler's coyote traps?
Will they get mistaken for coyotes and sold
to the highest bidder at the fur auction?
Or will they live again to do a help dummy diddy
do a demonstration on safe and responsible pet
ownership in the kitchen with the vet's office kitten?
Stay tuned, fans...
diddy wrote:
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyWe have a beagle. Before we got our last one,
we knew what to expect and spent a year re-enforcing
the fence.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyDouble fencing, hardware cloth lined on the inside.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyWood ties under gates.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyA chicken wire apron extending out into the yard
12 inches.(hog ringed to the upright fencing).
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyWe chose chicken wire because it was flexible
and ground conforming. grass grows right over
it, making it invisible and easy to mow over.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyIt's tacked down by tent stakes every 10 inches.
(this is our most considerable investment)
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyThe problems with it is that it eventually disintegrates,
rusts, pulls apart and need repair a lot.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyWe placed tile blocks over the top, because
the tent stakes stick up, and sometimes get
hit by the lawnmower.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyOverall, it's a pretty decent system and works
MOST of the time.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyThe beagle is persistent, and tends to work the inner
fencing, that's flimsy down, or tear it, making exit holes.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyWe recently cut down a couple yard trees that broke
down sections of the fence and they need re-enforcement.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyWhen the weather breaks, a whole new fence is
in order, but the system works MOST of the time.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyWe did install an underground perimeter E-fence
at the fence line, and found a single strand 12 inch
high electric cattle fence around the perimeter was
just as effective, cheaper, less bothersome (no need
to wear heavy e-collars.. especially that mess up coats),
but both needed occassional maintenence.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyI admit our system fails occassionally, especially
when snow drifts are over the top of the fences
and erase any identifiable fenceline.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyWe installed (BEFORE getting the beagle) a 100
foot trolly line that crosses the yard.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyThis is a safe, effective restraint system that has
always worked when immediate repairs or extra
security is desired.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyIf I go away and leave the beagle outside. He goes
to the trolly line, whether the containment system
is currently working or not.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyIt's great for emergency situations, and the $17 last
resort system gets used for the beagle far more than
I ever expected. It still allows reasonable exercise
range of area and mobility. The elkhounds and the
beagle still play avidly, and it's the cheapest piece of
mind security ever.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyA trolly tether system is the best for temporary
containment while discovering where the leak is.
In the snow, it's easy to discover the
leak. In the summer, it's more difficult.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
Post by diddyI do not like, or use our current underground collar system
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
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From: diddy <***@diddy.net>
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 11:27:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdr| My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
| trash up and down our road for years making an
| unbelievable mess. When we finally killed the
| culprit, the whole road cheered. Animal control
| had never been able in years to catch this critter.
| (we think it was feral it was certainly unkempt
| enough to have been....and it had been shot at by
| MANY of the neighbors, but it never frightened
| it off enough to keep it from NOT tearing up the
| road the next trash day)
Y'all take killing dogs pretty lightly. I'd have tolerated
the trash problem before I would have killed the dog.
No kidding.
Post by WakeBdrBut putting up with it wouldn't have been necessary.
The trash could have been better secured and the
problem would have been resolved.
Yep. Where's the condemnation of the people not
securing their trash. Especially since, IIRC, this is
the country we're talking about.
Cate
They were in the standard Rumpke plastic
waste containers they MUST be in.
If you are upset I advise you to keep your dogs at home.
As i repeated before, the time Danny and Taya got loose,
for all the dangers they faced out there, cars, disease,
coyotes, etc, the most immediate danger they were in,
was being shot.
This is why I immediately started canvassing the area
with full color door to door handouts emblazoned with
REWARD. DO NOT SHOOT these dogs across the top.
I knew every second they were loose, they were in grave
danger of being shot. At that time, Our dog pound was
on 20/20 for being one of the worst in the country (it's
not now, it's a modern model facility) i WANTED my
dogs there.
It meant they weren't out there being shot.
They would throw dogs in pens of 10-20 dogs, In spite
of the dirt and filth, if they got there, I had a chance of
recovery.
Roaming in this area is a very bad thing,
and people WILL shoot dogs.
Happens all the time.
If you like your dog, you keep it home.
A persons personal animals are more valueable to
them than your animal you don't think enough of to
keep at home.
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I was in that position once when Becky was hit
by a car when my son left the yard gate open.
Every Rescue Elkhound that I have ever had Cruciate ligament
surgery done on had straight stifles. I've never had one that
was properly angulated tear. It would make sense that a dog
with greater angulation would put more stress on the tendons,
yet the straight angulation dogs in my experience, have been
the ones with cruciate ligament tears. When you mentioned that
was her only conformational fault.. I'm thinking..
kachink! Another one!
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Cruciate ligament failure is CAUSED BY STRESS
from MISHANDLING, GARBAGE COMMERCIAL DIET and
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Here's diddler hurting and murderin innocent
defenseless dumb critters for FUN and PROFIT:
From: diddy (***@nospam.diddy.net) Subject: Re:
cats : Crating/Caging: What constitutes abuse? Date:
2002-08-23 09:18:08 PST
Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It
leaped, and tangled itself, and most certainly
strangulated it's intestines. It had the snare
pulled tight down to the diameter of a dime (just
large enough to encircle the spine) around the waist
area. This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to
extricate this cat was exceedingly difficult, not to
mention dangerous. Because I feared damage to the
intestines and death of the gut, I imagined
this cat was not likely to survive.
It would have been much simpler to dispatch the
unfortunate cat and take out the dead body. Instead,
this cat wore a collar. it deserved a chance, and
the owner deserved closure. (no id on the collar) .
It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be
taken to the vet for examination. I will probably
never know if this particular cat survives the
experience or not.
People in the area were aware that trapping was
being done and apparently still let their cats run
free, both endangered by the traps and by the
coyotes being targeted that are causing a problem
with their cat population.
Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not
have tried to release this hostile cat. Releasing it
may not have been a kindness, but then... cats
weren't supposed to be attracted to this type of
trap, in this position, and then they weren't
supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this
situation. If you like your pet, you keep them home.
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UNLESS of curse your backyard is POISONED:
Date: 2002-12-29 21:07:12 PST
HOWEDY Diddler,
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrWell, once again I caught my 4 yr old male Golden
Retriever - German Shepherd mix digging frantically in
back yard this afternoon and eating something. He is
completely obsessed with whatever is down there. The hole
is about 6" deep and only about as wide as his muzzle. I
see nothing when I look in hole when he is done. I live
in Indiana, and the ground has not frozen up for the
winter. My female Husky does the same thing although not
as frantically. I just recently spent $1000 on him in
emergency vet bills, xrays, 2 days in hospital, etc for
bloody diarreah and vomiting which happened after another
dig-eat episode a few weeks ago. I'm not sure the digging
and eating was the cause, but I suspect it. But then
there have been other digging episodes where he didn't get
sick. Almost exactly 2 yrs ago, I had a similar episode
with him.
Mine do that when they are digging for Grubs (June Bugs)
Sounds like fun, diddler. Do you sell their bodies
or use them for potions?
Post by diddyDegrubbing the yard with Diazinon works a treat.
They like that, do they? I'll go get some. I just LOVE
listenin to them singin their little hearts out on hot
summer days. Kind reminds Your Puppy Wizard when
he was just a Wiz kid, of the cabin in the mountains at
the sea shore we spent summers.
Post by diddyMy neighbors also quit having skunk/mole/dog digging
problems when they treated their yard for grubs.
Yeah. That's what I was afraid of, diddler.
Didn't they take Diaz off the market about a year or two ago?
I don't think poisonin the yard with a dog that you KNOW eats
dirt and stuff is WISE. No wonder your neighbor quit havin
that problem. I don't think our OP wants to solve the diggin
problem by killin the dog, diddler.
Your Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method
students cure digging in a few minutes over a couple of
days, maybe less.
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HOWEDY diddler,
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrI don't think under the circumstances described, Leah
is NOT guilty of theft. Deception, possibly.. but
that's really iffy. She has broken no laws. Her
behavior has not fullfilled an ethical or moral
standard as would be expected from a professional
trainer.
And when you shot the neighbor's dog, you did so to
avoid the moral dilemma which Leah is being raked over
the coals for? You know, you could have took the dog in
and fed him, loved him, trained him and dewormed him,
like leah has done. And your horses would have been
safe.
But apparently, instead, you did the right thing...
and shot him.
Fuck OFF MIKEY
Excuse me Mikey, I just traced this.
Did you now, diddler? Kinda like huntin, ain't it?
Post by diddyFuck OFF JERRY! *PLONK*
Sorry diddler, you got me wrong, just like you did
all them kats and your dog shittin blood, diddler.
You can't shoot strangle or track straight.
HOWEDY diddler,
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrJust curious if these methods are still encouraged;
koehler is recommended by our professor SCRUFF SHAKE
when the dog is too big and too dangerous to scruff shake
noMOORE.
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrI personally could never do it.
Most of our experts are devout koehler fans.
HOWEver, they'll deny they use the painful parts. koehler
warns against that, sez that's HOWE COME people got
to kill their dogs, cause they don't follow the method
EXACTLY. Just like HOWE it sez in your FREE copy
of my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual.
Only difference is, koehler sez you can't STOP hurting,
your FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual sez
you can't even scream NO or scruff shake your dog.
Post by diddyThere are still some old advocates,
You mean all our expert advisors here on
our dog forums, diddler.
Post by diddymostly in the law enforcement and security dog world.
Not noMOORE, diddler.
Post by diddyThis method separates the squeamish and soft dogs
Is that so, diddler? What's a SOFT dog, diddler? I never
heard of a soft dog. Are you talkin soft like fat assed and
lazy, like our experts here? Or are you talkin soft like in
out of shape MENTALLY?
Or do you mean to say dogs that can't take a lot of BEATIN?
Post by diddy(something that is detrimental in LE)
Is that so, diddler? You mean dogs in security and police and
military work should LIKE being BEATEN? Is that DESIRABLE?
Post by diddyfrom those hard dogs that let anything bounce off them
Anything, diddler? You mean like BULLETS? Or do you mean
like TRAINING STICKS and SHOCKING and CHOKING, diddler?
Are you talking about a dog that don't MIND being choked and
shocked and beaten and hung? Is that what you mean by hard
Vs soft dogs, diddler?
Post by diddyas if it never happened.
Yeah. It never happened, diddler. NOBODY here hurts dogs.
Ask matty. Ask Binaca bethFIST. Ask janet boss. Ask Master
Of Deception blankman and melanie and leah and liea and
professor scruff shake?
Post by diddyI would hope those training for pet use would not find his
methods of the 1930's and 40's still logical.
Well, well, well, diddler. I guess you must be a newbie here.
Either that, or you're one of the LYING DOG ABUSING THUG
COWARDS we got here who hurts and kills dogs and LIES
about it, diddler? Naaah. Not YOU. You're even on our kat
forums.
Post by diddyI shudder reading them,
Do you now, diddler? Some of us CRINGE.
Post by diddyand thank forward moving trainers for
moving us out of the dark ages.
Oh, indeedy, diddler. Thank you for supporting pain fear
intimidation and death.
Post by diddyYou would think he hates dogs.
Naah. He's a professional dog trainer, diddler. Most of our
dog lovers here swear by their koehler method for the really
tough dogs. The ones that LIKE to be beaten and HUNG.
Meanwhile, the heel with koehler diddler, we got a worse
scumbag to identify and expose. That be YOU:
From: diddy <***@nofair.spamming.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:07:51 -0500
Subject: Re: "Timmie's in the well!!"
Post by diddyPost by WakeBdrSince Bodhi has arrived, Coda has earned himself a new
nickname: "Fun Police".
(Regardless if it's something he would've done as a puppy or not!)
LOL! Isn't that funny - kind of the opposite of Kavik.
Danny is a fun police also!! Miss Reka and Mr beeeeegs frustratingly
just ignore him. (Danny never did those things in his youth, however,
as he was a very serious puppy, hence, I thought he had a potential
temperament problem and didn't sell him)
Temperment problems? Isn't that funny. Danny. Temperment
problems. Its a damn good thing you didn't sell him though.
Dannys mother had temperament problems.. and I had leased her to
breed (she was a top producing kennel dog), when brought into a home
condition, she had no resiliency. She was finished as a puppy in just
5 shows, and then never left the kennel again except to whelp puppies.
I very much admired her structure/pedigree/bloodlines/health
testing/"get and their performance records"
She had just had a litter and had to be bottle raised because she had
no milk. The breeder lamented that she thought she would probably not
ever be bred again because of the milk problem. I took her home on
vacation. however i signed legal lease papers with a breeding
clause.
I never intended to breed her. I thought the papers i was
signing was to prevent me from breeding her.
After keeping her for two years, the breeder told me it was time to
breed her and return half the litter that I owed during her "lease"
I told her I did NOT want to breed her, and her phobia about leaving
fences, fear of noises, etc was not something i wanted to have in a
dog.
She said i "OWED" her a 1/2 litter of puppies per contract. i long
ago
threw out my contract, and she sent me a copy of hers. Sure enough, I
HAD to breed her. I argued that she was not temperamentally sound.
She was a ditz, and trying to work with her only to find her so
institutionalized that when she dissappeared, she was ALWAYS
standing at the gate shivering wanting to get INTO the safety of
the fenced yard.
(running away was not an issue with her.. she couldn't stand being in
a decision making situation,, and couldn't stand being outside a
fence... hardly the kind of dog that fits my lifestyle)
I did the obligatory breeding, and never dealt with that breeder
again.
Danny was an offspring of tthat litter. I was worried looking for
instability. Her offspring from other litters had a history of being
darlings, but with the neurotic behavior she had) Danny would never
play. He would sit analyzing anything the other puppies did, and if
they screamed, he would never do what they did again. He wouldn't
play... He just watched, deciding what was ok.. and what wasn't.
He figured if a puppy screamed while they were roughhousing, all
roughhousing was bad. He'd be in the middle of the pack trying to
break them up (fun police).. he took this to extreme in every facet
of his life, and I feared he was going to be like his mom, and
eventually aftraid to leave the fence.
The home I had picked for him had two little boys, and I was afraid
they would intimidate him (in spite of them being great and gentle
little boys, into being a fear biter if forced beyond the bounds of
what
he thought he was appropriate.) So i kept Danny and gave this family
glowing refeerrals to another family.
They watched Danny grow up, and his accomplishments, and felt that I
kept "Their" dog out of selfish reasons. They knew he was a "star"
and
just kept him from them *sigh*
Danny was the easiest yet hardest dog i ever had to train in my life.
He was bright, tried never to make any mistakes, you only showed him
something once, he took learning so seriously that he would practice.
Yet if he failed or misunderstood, he crashed. He'd be afraid to try
it
again, or assume the whole exercise was wrong, and he was to never
do that exercise again. If he feared he was going to make a mistake,
he stood there like a statue with his eyes closed and just shook.
He has been since VERY young, a perfectionist. He's still a
perfectionist. Yes, I considered this a temperament fault when
carried to this extreme. He worries about perfection even now,
until he gets ulcers :)
He did not belong in the home that was supposed to be his. That home
lost their dog they got instead, because the kids let the gate open,
and
the dog ran out and got killed in traffic. I'm glad he stayed.
His puppies also have that sensitivity and perfectionist streak. In
the
right hands, it's a gift. In the wrong hands, it's a disaster. Is it a
temperament problem? yes and no.. it's not a temperament just any
family usa should have and could deal with. so in essence, it's a
temperament problem. To me, and those homes who got his puppies,
and then had me do in home visits to teach them how to handle it have
found it a special gift. He's definitely a dog that is not for
everyone.
His great great grandfather was also known more for his intelligence
than his championship, He won a National Specialty, and yet he was
bred twice, and his puppies had the same wierdness and intelligence.
MOST people couldn't handle them, and he got neutered. Never-the-less,
Danny has three crosses in his pedigree to this same fruity dog. I
think he
got it honestly.
On the same note, Danny passes it on. I had to work with every one of
those puppies in their homes. Every one of them spent a month or more
in my house at a year old doing rehab , before I spent a week or
morein
their owners houses teaching them how to train and work with their
pups.
A litter that requires this DOES have temperament issues. At the same
time, each of these families has their name on a list, should I ever
breed Danny again (He has semen on store) I sold every pup on a
spay/neuter contract (this was before limited registration)
One violated that contract and bred their dog anyway. He's a champion
and as the only pup from Danny that was ever bred, many people bred
to him. Those puppies did NOT have the support my Danny puppies had,
and there were a bunch of disturbed and temperament problems in those
litters. I've been rescueing Elkhounds trying to clean up the mess
since.
You could never guess by looking at Danny that there was a
temperament problem. It was trained out when he was very young. It's
non-existant.. but it's there in his genes.. in that can in storage.
It's the reason I never bred him again. Although I would "like to"
someday. If I could find the right bitch, and knew that she would
have only "ONE" puppy.. for "me".
I had discovered that that very temperament weakness was his strength
that made him very special. Because it takes special handling to turn
it from detriment to gift.. I _do_ consider it a "problem".
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